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Ill, How? Sa Lone man sef get den abi wan dem oh!
The Queen, Clinton & Pa Shakie went to hell and met the devil.
Queen Elizabeth said "I miss England; Please I want to call England and see how everybody is doing there". She called and talked for about 5 minutes, and then she asked "Well, Devil, how much do I owe you???? " The devil says "Five million pounds". She wrote him a cheque and went to sit back on her chair.
Bill Clinton was so jealous, he starts screaming, "My turn! I wanna call the States, I wanna see how every godamn guy, well actually Monica Lewinsky, is doing out there. He called and talked for about 2 minutes, and then he asked "Well, Devil, how much do I owe you???? " The devil says "Ten million dollars". With a smug look on his face, he wrote a cheque and went to sit back on his chair.
Pa Shakie was even more jealous & starts screaming, "Me too go call Sa Lone o jare, Ar wan see how everybody dae do. If they don bring light en if di road dem don betteh. If den don make fly-over bridge dem now. Ar go talk to the ministers, to me special advisers, to me APC party, to the SLPP, to all den oda parties den and Sa Lone Central Bank, to everybody... "
He calls Sa Lone and he talks for about twenty hours, he talked & talked & talked, then he asked, "Well, Devil, can I have my bill???? " The devil says "Ten thousand Leones".
Pa Shakie is stunned & says; "Aw ba!! Ten thousand Leone nor mor???
Only ten thousand Leones" The Devil says "Well if you make a call from one hell to another hell, it's local! "
Cheers!
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Very humorous, but in a diabolical manner.
postmaster <postmaster@youthforsierraleone.com> wrote:
Ill, How? Sa Lone man sef get den abi wan dem oh! The Queen, Clinton & Pa Shakie went to hell and met the devil.
Queen Elizabeth said "I miss England; Please I want to call England and see how everybody is
doing there". She called and talked for about 5 minutes, and then she asked "Well, Devil, how much do I owe you???? " The devil says "Five million pounds". She wrote him a cheque and went to sit back on her chair.
Bill Clinton was so jealous, he starts screaming, "My turn! I wanna call the States, I wanna see how every godamn guy, well actually Monica Lewinsky, is doing out there. He called and talked for about 2 minutes, and then he asked "Well, Devil, how much do I owe you???? " The devil says "Ten million dollars". With a smug look on his face, he wrote a cheque and went to sit back on his chair.
Pa Shakie was even more jealous & starts screaming, "Me too go call Sa Lone o jare, Ar wan see how everybody dae do. If they don bring light en if
di road dem don betteh. If den don make fly-over bridge dem now. Ar go talk to the ministers, to me special advisers, to me APC party, to the SLPP, to all den oda parties den and Sa Lone Central Bank, to everybody... " He calls Sa Lone and he talks for about twenty hours, he talked & talked & talked, then he asked, "Well, Devil, can I have my bill???? " The devil says "Ten thousand Leones".
Pa Shakie is stunned & says; "Aw ba!! Ten thousand Leone nor mor???
Only ten thousand Leones" The Devil says "Well if you make a call from one hell to
another hell, it's local! "
Cheers!
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It is simple, Karmor John Simbo. Shaki was a crook, but he was also a true nationalist. Look at his entire history, not just the years he made his mistakes.
-----Original Message-----
From: John Simbo
Sent: Jul 27, 2007 11:34 AM
To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu, Pierre Lightfoot- Boston , postmaster
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
The joke is fine Pierre, only thing diabolical is
Shaki's rule. He created that hell in the first place. I can't figure why there
hasn't been a clamour for the man's remains to be removed from the precincts of
Parliament. He does not deserve that honour.
Cheers.
John
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:24
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Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL
SALONE
Very humorous, but in a diabolical manner.
Ill, How? Sa Lone
man sef get den abi wan dem oh!
The Queen,
Clinton & Pa Shakie went to hell and met the
devil.
Queen
Elizabeth said "I miss England; Please I want to call England and see how
everybody is doing there". She called and talked for about 5 minutes, and
then she asked "Well, Devil, how much do I owe you???? " The devil says
"Five million pounds". She wrote him a cheque and went to sit back on her
chair.
Bill Clinton was so
jealous, he starts screaming, "My turn! I wanna call the States, I wanna see
how every godamn guy, well actually Monica Lewinsky, is doing out there. He
called and talked for about 2 minutes, and then he asked "Well, Devil, how
much do I owe you???? " The devil says "Ten million dollars". With a smug
look on his face, he wrote a cheque and went to sit back on his
chair.
Pa Shakie was even more
jealous & starts screaming, "Me too go call Sa Lone o jare, Ar wan see
how everybody dae do. If they don bring light en if di road dem don betteh.
If den don make fly-over bridge dem now. Ar go talk to the ministers, to me
special advisers, to me APC party, to the SLPP, to all den oda parties den
and Sa Lone Central Bank, to everybody... "
He calls
Sa Lone and he talks for about twenty hours, he talked & talked &
talked, then he asked, "Well, Devil, can I have my bill???? " The devil says
"Ten thousand Leones".
Pa
Shakie is stunned & says; "Aw ba!! Ten thousand Leone nor mor???
Only ten
thousand Leones" The Devil says "Well if you make a call from one hell to
another hell, it's local! "
Cheers!
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Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
Thanks a heap Karmor Claude for your inquiry, despite its sneaky motive. The following are the three things I pointed out to Pa Shaki. Now whether or not mine was the only prompting that led him to change his policies I cannot claim or, as we used to say in the good old days, "cham banga for am."
(1) Based on an economics essay a fellow student, Arthur, had written, I was very concerned about the Shaki Administration continuously borriwing from the World bank and IMF. I shared with him Arthur's findings and suggested that the Administration start paying down the debt. Well, as you may recall, the Administration did. The result was that Sierra Leone's economy grew and was even in a good position to withstand the global oil shocks of the period.
(2) Since my youth, I have always felt that an occasional monkey suit and tie is okay; but excessive wearing of such oyinbo/muzungu costumes, I believe, is a sign is serious cultural capitulation. Thus, I politely mentioned to Pa Shaki that he being an Afrikan nationalist can spur a growth in the national apparel industry by wearing more Afrikan outfits. I pointed out the examples of his best friend, Sekou Toure, and Pa Milton Margai who looked good in their Afrikan outfits. If you would notice, in the latter part of tenure at President, Pa Shaki became more comfortable in Afrikan outfits. Many of his ministers even followed suit.
(3) Pa Shaki was being extremely pressured to select Sorie Ibrahim Koroma to be his Prime Minister and subsequently his first Vice President to appease the Temne. My argument was that he needed someone with an amicable image, and that being called and cherishing the name Agba Satani does not portray an amicable image. He asked who fits such an image, and my response was Christian Alusine Kamara-Taylor. As it tuned out, Kamara-Taylor became the Prime Minister and later first Vice President. But to appease those who were pressuring him, Pa Shaki later appointed Koroma his second Vice President.
And Karmor John Simbo, about Taqi, Forna, etc., many students and I wrote letters to Pa Shaki arguing that the accused had a long history of being "straight shooters" who would confront opponents openly rather than engage in dubious behind-the-scene activities. I went to school with relatives of Taqi and Forna in S/L. Some of them ended up working at the Lungi Airport. Each time I visited Lungi, I hooked up with them. But when the confessions to the coup plot started coming out and David Lansana, who had orchestrated the first coup in Sierra Leone's history, was seriously implicated, our hearts sunk because we knew that their demise was certain.
on 7/28/07 3:42 PM, Claude Kajue at CKajue@Pfuster.com wrote:
Brother Abdul,
I¹ve gotta take you up on this... Please tell me what were some of the things that you had pointed out to pops Shek that he went back and changed?
Claude
From: leonenet-owner@lists.umbc.edu [mailto:leonenet-owner@lists.umbc.edu] On Behalf Of Abdul Bangura
Sent: 28 July 2007 17:03
To: John Simbo; leonenet@lists.umbc.edu; Pierre Lightfoot- Boston; postmaster
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
Nope!!! Surpirsingly, he went back to S/L ad changed some of the things I had pointed out. The lesson is that had the folk around him talked directly to him about the shortcomings of his administration, as opposed to simply going along as some did or try to remove him from prower as other attempted, Shaki was maleable.
on 7/28/07 11:30 AM, John Simbo at johnsimbo@telkomsa.net wrote:
So? As Sam put it, he conned you and you elevated him to hero status, there to remain ever after.
----- Original Message -----
From: Abdul Bangura <mailto:theai@earthlink.net>
To: John Simbo leonenet@lists.umbc.edu, <mailto:leonenet@lists.umbc.edu,> ; leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; Pierre Lightfoot- Boston <mailto:p_boston@yahoo.com> ; postmaster <mailto:postmaster@youthforsierraleone.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
I had an encounter with Pa Shaki, JCK's Uncle, in Switzerland, and I thought I was going to get it hard for speaking my mind to him. He was expecting me to do like the others that went into his hotel office to see him, share the typical "hardship stories" as Afrikan students struggling in Europe, and then ask for financial help. Instead, I went in there talking about what I admired about his earlier political record and some of his bad policies at the time. To my surprise, he thanked me for being honest and confessed that there were things about his administration of which he was not proud or happy.
on 7/28/07 1:03 AM, John Simbo at johnsimbo@telkomsa.net wrote:
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As you would expect, AKB, I don't agree with your assessment of the man. However let us for a moment accept what you say.
1 How much more crooked does Shaki need to have been before you say "ee do so, yu too pass mark. No honour for yu"?
2 How come you never seem to apply this fine balancing act of good versus evil to other personalities, Sir Albert for example?
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Abdul Karim Bangura <mailto:theai@earthlink.net>
To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; John Simbo <mailto:johnsimbo@telkomsa.net> ; leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; Pierre Lightfoot- Boston <mailto:p_boston@yahoo.com> ; postmaster <mailto:postmaster@youthforsierraleone.com>
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
It is simple, Karmor John Simbo. Shaki was a crook, but he was also a true nationalist. Look at his entire history, not just the years he made his mistakes.
-----Original Message-----
From: John Simbo
Sent: Jul 27, 2007 11:34 AM
To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu, Pierre Lightfoot- Boston
, postmaster
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
The joke is fine Pierre, only thing diabolical is Shaki's rule. He created that hell in the first place. I can't figure why there hasn't been a clamour for the man's remains to be removed from the precincts of Parliament. He does not deserve that honour.
Cheers.
John
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From: Pierre Lightfoot- Boston <mailto:p_boston@yahoo.com>
To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; postmaster <mailto:postmaster@youthforsierraleone.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
Very humorous, but in a diabolical manner.
postmaster <postmaster@youthforsierraleone.com> wrote:
Ill, How? Sa Lone man sef get den abi wan dem oh!
The Queen, Clinton & Pa Shakie went to hell and met the devil.
Queen Elizabeth said "I miss England; Please I want to call England and see how everybody is doing there". She called and talked for about 5 minutes, and then she asked "Well, Devil, how much do I owe you???? " The devil says "Five million pounds". She wrote him a cheque and went to sit back on her chair.
Bill Clinton was so jealous, he starts screaming, "My turn! I wanna call the States, I wanna see how every godamn guy, well actually Monica Lewinsky, is doing out there. He called and talked for about 2 minutes, and then he asked "Well, Devil, how much do I owe you???? " The devil says "Ten million dollars". With a smug look on his face, he wrote a cheque and went to sit back on his chair.
Pa Shakie was even more jealous & starts screaming, "Me too go call Sa Lone o jare, Ar wan see how everybody dae do. If they don bring light en if di road dem don betteh. If den don make fly-over bridge dem now. Ar go talk to the ministers, to me special advisers, to me APC party, to the SLPP, to all den oda parties den and Sa Lone Central Bank, to everybody... "
He calls Sa Lone and he talks for about twenty hours, he talked & talked & talked, then he asked, "Well, Devil, can I have my bill???? " The devil says "Ten thousand Leones".
Pa Shakie is stunned & says; "Aw ba!! Ten thousand Leone nor mor???
Only ten thousand Leones" The Devil says "Well if you make a call from one hell to another hell, it's local! "
Cheers!
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Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
Bro Abdul,
The reason why I asked you that question is because the Sheki I knew did not take kindly to outsiders (non-APC core members) telling him how to do his job
more or less students. I know for a fact that guru (Hindolo Trye) will back me on this. He was the most popular student during that era and even he failed when he tried to advise pops Sheks on matters regarding student activities. The old man called him a
“fit-yai boy” (disrespectful boy). That is why I was surprised when you said that he accepted and implemented the advise you gave him.
I’ll take your word that he accepted your recommendations on 1 and 2; however, 3 might be a little fuzzy because SI Koroma was his vice president (a position
that MS Fornah would have gotten had he not rebelled) and Kamara-Taylor was his prime minister. He made SI VP-1 and Kamara-Taylor VP-2 after the one-party referendum.
Just a quick heads up... After MS Fornah and Bash-Taqi were sidelined, real power within the APC was in the hands of SI Koroma. Whenever there was a cabinet
reshuffle, SI was heavily involved in choosing who got what position including the secretary-general position of the party – a position which ET Kamara had for years. It would have been political suicide for pa Sheki had he tried to sideline SI.
Claude
From: Abdul Bangura [mailto:theai@earthlink.net]
Sent: 29 July 2007 15:57
To: Claude Kajue; leonenet@lists.umbc.edu
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
Thanks a heap Karmor Claude for your inquiry, despite its sneaky motive. The following are the three things I pointed out to Pa Shaki. Now whether or not mine was the only prompting that led him to change his
policies I cannot claim or, as we used to say in the good old days, "cham banga for am."
(1) Based on an economics essay a fellow student, Arthur, had written, I was very concerned about the Shaki Administration continuously borriwing from the World bank and IMF. I shared with him Arthur's findings and suggested that the Administration start paying
down the debt. Well, as you may recall, the Administration did. The result was that Sierra Leone's economy grew and was even in a good position to withstand the global oil shocks of the period.
(2) Since my youth, I have always felt that an occasional monkey suit and tie is okay; but excessive wearing of such oyinbo/muzungu costumes, I believe, is a sign is serious cultural capitulation. Thus, I politely mentioned to Pa Shaki that he being an Afrikan
nationalist can spur a growth in the national apparel industry by wearing more Afrikan outfits. I pointed out the examples of his best friend, Sekou Toure, and Pa Milton Margai who looked good in their Afrikan outfits. If you would notice, in the latter part
of tenure at President, Pa Shaki became more comfortable in Afrikan outfits. Many of his ministers even followed suit.
(3) Pa Shaki was being extremely pressured to select Sorie Ibrahim Koroma to be his Prime Minister and subsequently his first Vice President to appease the Temne. My argument was that he needed someone with an amicable image, and that being called and cherishing
the name Agba Satani does not portray an amicable image. He asked who fits such an image, and my response was Christian Alusine Kamara-Taylor. As it tuned out, Kamara-Taylor became the Prime Minister and later first Vice President. But to appease those who
were pressuring him, Pa Shaki later appointed Koroma his second Vice President.
And Karmor John Simbo, about Taqi, Forna, etc., many students and I wrote letters to Pa Shaki arguing that the accused had a long history of being "straight shooters" who would confront opponents openly rather than engage in dubious behind-the-scene activities.
I went to school with relatives of Taqi and Forna in S/L. Some of them ended up working at the Lungi Airport. Each time I visited Lungi, I hooked up with them. But when the confessions to the coup plot started coming out and David Lansana, who had orchestrated
the first coup in Sierra Leone's history, was seriously implicated, our hearts sunk because we knew that their demise was certain.
on 7/28/07 3:42 PM, Claude Kajue at CKajue@Pfuster.com wrote:
Brother Abdul,
I¹ve gotta take you up on this... Please tell me what were some of the things that you had pointed out to pops Shek that he went back and changed?
Claude
From: leonenet-owner@lists.umbc.edu [mailto:leonenet-owner@lists.umbc.edu]
On Behalf Of Abdul Bangura
Sent: 28 July 2007 17:03
To: John Simbo; leonenet@lists.umbc.edu; Pierre Lightfoot- Boston; postmaster
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
Nope!!! Surpirsingly, he went back to S/L ad changed some of the things I had pointed out. The lesson is that had the folk around him talked directly to him about the shortcomings of his administration, as opposed to simply going along as some did or try to
remove him from prower as other attempted, Shaki was maleable.
on 7/28/07 11:30 AM, John Simbo at johnsimbo@telkomsa.net wrote:
So? As Sam put it, he conned you and you elevated him to hero status, there to remain ever after.
----- Original Message -----
From: Abdul Bangura <mailto:theai@earthlink.net>
To: John Simbo leonenet@lists.umbc.edu, <mailto:leonenet@lists.umbc.edu,> ; leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; Pierre Lightfoot- Boston <mailto:p_boston@yahoo.com> ; postmaster <mailto:postmaster@youthforsierraleone.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
I had an encounter with Pa Shaki, JCK's Uncle, in Switzerland, and I thought I was going to get it hard for speaking my mind to him. He was expecting me to do like the others that went into his hotel office to see him, share the typical "hardship stories" as
Afrikan students struggling in Europe, and then ask for financial help. Instead, I went in there talking about what I admired about his earlier political record and some of his bad policies at the time. To my surprise, he thanked me for being honest and confessed
that there were things about his administration of which he was not proud or happy.
on 7/28/07 1:03 AM, John Simbo at johnsimbo@telkomsa.net wrote:
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As you would expect, AKB, I don't agree with your assessment of the man. However let us for a moment accept what you say.
1 How much more crooked does Shaki need to have been before you say "ee do so, yu too pass mark. No honour for yu"?
2 How come you never seem to apply this fine balancing act of good versus evil to other personalities, Sir Albert for example?
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Abdul Karim Bangura <mailto:theai@earthlink.net>
To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; John Simbo <mailto:johnsimbo@telkomsa.net> ; leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; Pierre Lightfoot- Boston <mailto:p_boston@yahoo.com> ; postmaster <mailto:postmaster@youthforsierraleone.com>
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
It is simple, Karmor John Simbo. Shaki was a crook, but he was also a true nationalist. Look at his entire history, not just the years he made his mistakes.
-----Original Message-----
From: John Simbo
Sent: Jul 27, 2007 11:34 AM
To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu, Pierre Lightfoot- Boston
, postmaster
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
The joke is fine Pierre, only thing diabolical is Shaki's rule. He created that hell in the first place. I can't figure why there hasn't been a clamour for the man's remains to be removed from the precincts of Parliament. He does not deserve that honour.
Cheers.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Pierre Lightfoot- Boston <mailto:p_boston@yahoo.com>
To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; postmaster <mailto:postmaster@youthforsierraleone.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
Very humorous, but in a diabolical manner.
postmaster <postmaster@youthforsierraleone.com> wrote:
Ill, How? Sa Lone man sef get den abi wan dem oh!
The Queen, Clinton & Pa Shakie went to hell and met the devil.
Queen Elizabeth said "I miss England; Please I want to call England and see how everybody is doing there". She called and talked for about 5 minutes, and then she asked "Well, Devil, how much do I owe you???? " The devil says "Five million pounds". She wrote
him a cheque and went to sit back on her chair.
Bill Clinton was so jealous, he starts screaming, "My turn! I wanna call the States, I wanna see how every godamn guy, well actually Monica Lewinsky, is doing out there. He called and talked for about 2 minutes, and then he asked "Well, Devil, how much do I
owe you???? " The devil says "Ten million dollars". With a smug look on his face, he wrote a cheque and went to sit back on his chair.
Pa Shakie was even more jealous & starts screaming, "Me too go call Sa Lone o jare, Ar wan see how everybody dae do. If they don bring light en if di road dem don betteh. If den don make fly-over bridge dem now. Ar go talk to the ministers, to me special advisers,
to me APC party, to the SLPP, to all den oda parties den and Sa Lone Central Bank, to everybody... "
He calls Sa Lone and he talks for about twenty hours, he talked & talked & talked, then he asked, "Well, Devil, can I have my bill???? " The devil says "Ten thousand Leones".
Pa Shakie is stunned & says; "Aw ba!! Ten thousand Leone nor mor???
Only ten thousand Leones" The Devil says "Well if you make a call from one hell to another hell, it's local! "
Cheers!
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Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
Indeed, Hindolo Trye, unlike his sister and my fromer fellow school mate, Hana Trye, lacks the art of diplomacy. And student riots under his leadership did not sit well with those in power at the time; thus, his leadership was viewed with suspicion.
What Sierra Leonean students in the Diaspora have are the clout of international media and ocasionally supportive leaders. In Italy, we were able to get the S/L Embassy to provide sleeping quarters and allowances for food and transportation for students who transit via Rome to their final destinations or go to Rome for short study tours and research, because we made the case to Pa Shaki when he visited Italy in a very respectful manner. In the US, we were able to get Pa Shaki to scrub the nuclear waste dumping deal, because we asked President Carter to intervene (I still have the letter from President Carter as a suvenir) and informed the media about the deal. The media, in trun, publicized the story.
on 7/29/07 11:43 AM, Claude Kajue at CKajue@Pfuster.com wrote:
Bro Abdul,
The reason why I asked you that question is because the Sheki I knew did not take kindly to outsiders (non-APC core members) telling him how to do his job more or less students. I know for a fact that guru (Hindolo Trye) will back me on this. He was the most popular student during that era and even he failed when he tried to advise pops Sheks on matters regarding student activities. The old man called him a ³fit-yai boy² (disrespectful boy). That is why I was surprised when you said that he accepted and implemented the advise you gave him.
I¹ll take your word that he accepted your recommendations on 1 and 2; however, 3 might be a little fuzzy because SI Koroma was his vice president (a position that MS Fornah would have gotten had he not rebelled) and Kamara-Taylor was his prime minister. He made SI VP-1 and Kamara-Taylor VP-2 after the one-party referendum.
Just a quick heads up... After MS Fornah and Bash-Taqi were sidelined, real power within the APC was in the hands of SI Koroma. Whenever there was a cabinet reshuffle, SI was heavily involved in choosing who got what position including the secretary-general position of the party a position which ET Kamara had for years. It would have been political suicide for pa Sheki had he tried to sideline SI.
Claude
From: Abdul Bangura [mailto:theai@earthlink.net]
Sent: 29 July 2007 15:57
To: Claude Kajue; leonenet@lists.umbc.edu
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
Thanks a heap Karmor Claude for your inquiry, despite its sneaky motive. The following are the three things I pointed out to Pa Shaki. Now whether or not mine was the only prompting that led him to change his policies I cannot claim or, as we used to say in the good old days, "cham banga for am."
(1) Based on an economics essay a fellow student, Arthur, had written, I was very concerned about the Shaki Administration continuously borriwing from the World bank and IMF. I shared with him Arthur's findings and suggested that the Administration start paying down the debt. Well, as you may recall, the Administration did. The result was that Sierra Leone's economy grew and was even in a good position to withstand the global oil shocks of the period.
(2) Since my youth, I have always felt that an occasional monkey suit and tie is okay; but excessive wearing of such oyinbo/muzungu costumes, I believe, is a sign is serious cultural capitulation. Thus, I politely mentioned to Pa Shaki that he being an Afrikan nationalist can spur a growth in the national apparel industry by wearing more Afrikan outfits. I pointed out the examples of his best friend, Sekou Toure, and Pa Milton Margai who looked good in their Afrikan outfits. If you would notice, in the latter part of tenure at President, Pa Shaki became more comfortable in Afrikan outfits. Many of his ministers even followed suit.
(3) Pa Shaki was being extremely pressured to select Sorie Ibrahim Koroma to be his Prime Minister and subsequently his first Vice President to appease the Temne. My argument was that he needed someone with an amicable image, and that being called and cherishing the name Agba Satani does not portray an amicable image. He asked who fits such an image, and my response was Christian Alusine Kamara-Taylor. As it tuned out, Kamara-Taylor became the Prime Minister and later first Vice President. But to appease those who were pressuring him, Pa Shaki later appointed Koroma his second Vice President.
And Karmor John Simbo, about Taqi, Forna, etc., many students and I wrote letters to Pa Shaki arguing that the accused had a long history of being "straight shooters" who would confront opponents openly rather than engage in dubious behind-the-scene activities. I went to school with relatives of Taqi and Forna in S/L. Some of them ended up working at the Lungi Airport. Each time I visited Lungi, I hooked up with them. But when the confessions to the coup plot started coming out and David Lansana, who had orchestrated the first coup in Sierra Leone's history, was seriously implicated, our hearts sunk because we knew that their demise was certain.
on 7/28/07 3:42 PM, Claude Kajue at CKajue@Pfuster.com wrote:
Brother Abdul,
I¹ve gotta take you up on this... Please tell me what were some of the things that you had pointed out to pops Shek that he went back and changed?
Claude
From: leonenet-owner@lists.umbc.edu [mailto:leonenet-owner@lists.umbc.edu] On Behalf Of Abdul Bangura
Sent: 28 July 2007 17:03
To: John Simbo; leonenet@lists.umbc.edu; Pierre Lightfoot- Boston; postmaster
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
Nope!!! Surpirsingly, he went back to S/L ad changed some of the things I had pointed out. The lesson is that had the folk around him talked directly to him about the shortcomings of his administration, as opposed to simply going along as some did or try to remove him from prower as other attempted, Shaki was maleable.
on 7/28/07 11:30 AM, John Simbo at johnsimbo@telkomsa.net wrote:
So? As Sam put it, he conned you and you elevated him to hero status, there to remain ever after.
----- Original Message -----
From: Abdul Bangura <mailto:theai@earthlink.net>
To: John Simbo leonenet@lists.umbc.edu, <mailto:leonenet@lists.umbc.edu,> ; leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; Pierre Lightfoot- Boston <mailto:p_boston@yahoo.com> ; postmaster <mailto:postmaster@youthforsierraleone.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
I had an encounter with Pa Shaki, JCK's Uncle, in Switzerland, and I thought I was going to get it hard for speaking my mind to him. He was expecting me to do like the others that went into his hotel office to see him, share the typical "hardship stories" as Afrikan students struggling in Europe, and then ask for financial help. Instead, I went in there talking about what I admired about his earlier political record and some of his bad policies at the time. To my surprise, he thanked me for being honest and confessed that there were things about his administration of which he was not proud or happy.
on 7/28/07 1:03 AM, John Simbo at johnsimbo@telkomsa.net wrote:
?
As you would expect, AKB, I don't agree with your assessment of the man. However let us for a moment accept what you say.
1 How much more crooked does Shaki need to have been before you say "ee do so, yu too pass mark. No honour for yu"?
2 How come you never seem to apply this fine balancing act of good versus evil to other personalities, Sir Albert for example?
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Abdul Karim Bangura <mailto:theai@earthlink.net>
To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; John Simbo <mailto:johnsimbo@telkomsa.net> ; leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; Pierre Lightfoot- Boston <mailto:p_boston@yahoo.com> ; postmaster <mailto:postmaster@youthforsierraleone.com>
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
It is simple, Karmor John Simbo. Shaki was a crook, but he was also a true nationalist. Look at his entire history, not just the years he made his mistakes.
-----Original Message-----
From: John Simbo
Sent: Jul 27, 2007 11:34 AM
To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu, Pierre Lightfoot- Boston
, postmaster
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
The joke is fine Pierre, only thing diabolical is Shaki's rule. He created that hell in the first place. I can't figure why there hasn't been a clamour for the man's remains to be removed from the precincts of Parliament. He does not deserve that honour.
Cheers.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Pierre Lightfoot- Boston <mailto:p_boston@yahoo.com>
To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; postmaster <mailto:postmaster@youthforsierraleone.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
Very humorous, but in a diabolical manner.
postmaster <postmaster@youthforsierraleone.com> wrote:
Ill, How? Sa Lone man sef get den abi wan dem oh!
The Queen, Clinton & Pa Shakie went to hell and met the devil.
Queen Elizabeth said "I miss England; Please I want to call England and see how everybody is doing there". She called and talked for about 5 minutes, and then she asked "Well, Devil, how much do I owe you???? " The devil says "Five million pounds". She wrote him a cheque and went to sit back on her chair.
Bill Clinton was so jealous, he starts screaming, "My turn! I wanna call the States, I wanna see how every godamn guy, well actually Monica Lewinsky, is doing out there. He called and talked for about 2 minutes, and then he asked "Well, Devil, how much do I owe you???? " The devil says "Ten million dollars". With a smug look on his face, he wrote a cheque and went to sit back on his chair.
Pa Shakie was even more jealous & starts screaming, "Me too go call Sa Lone o jare, Ar wan see how everybody dae do. If they don bring light en if di road dem don betteh. If den don make fly-over bridge dem now. Ar go talk to the ministers, to me special advisers, to me APC party, to the SLPP, to all den oda parties den and Sa Lone Central Bank, to everybody... "
He calls Sa Lone and he talks for about twenty hours, he talked & talked & talked, then he asked, "Well, Devil, can I have my bill???? " The devil says "Ten thousand Leones".
Pa Shakie is stunned & says; "Aw ba!! Ten thousand Leone nor mor???
Only ten thousand Leones" The Devil says "Well if you make a call from one hell to another hell, it's local! "
Cheers!
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| AKB,
If Stevens was paying his debt as you claim (which would make us credit worthy/low credit risk), why was Momoh not able to easily borrow against previous established lines of credit that Stevens paid off? Why were loans from financial institutions in the Stevens and Momoh era given with stricter or harsher conditions/terms? than the Margai era? Why was foreign exchange allocation to the public and businesses severely rationed? Explain foreign donors resorting to aid/loan without direct transfer of funds to Sierra Leone as was the case with Chinese government and building of the Stadium. Justify folks forming lines for every imported food/non food item especially gasoline and rice under Stevens/Momoh.
T.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Abdul Bangura
>Sent: Jul 29, 2007 7:56 AM
>To: "leonenet@lists.umbc.edu, Claude Kajue" , "leonenet@lists.umbc.edu"
>Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
>
>Thanks a heap Karmor Claude for your inquiry, despite its sneaky motive. The
>following are the three things I pointed out to Pa Shaki. Now whether or not
>mine was the only prompting that led him to change his policies I cannot
>claim or, as we used to say in the good old days, "cham banga for am."
>
>(1) Based on an economics essay a fellow student, Arthur, had written, I was
>very concerned about the Shaki Administration continuously borriwing from
>the World bank and IMF. I shared with him Arthur's findings and suggested
>that the Administration start paying down the debt. Well, as you may recall,
>the Administration did. The result was that Sierra Leone's economy grew and
>was even in a good position to withstand the global oil shocks of the
>period.
>
>(2) Since my youth, I have always felt that an occasional monkey suit and
>tie is okay; but excessive wearing of such oyinbo/muzungu costumes, I
>believe, is a sign is serious cultural capitulation. Thus, I politely
>mentioned to Pa Shaki that he being an Afrikan nationalist can spur a growth
>in the national apparel industry by wearing more Afrikan outfits. I pointed
>out the examples of his best friend, Sekou Toure, and Pa Milton Margai who
>looked good in their Afrikan outfits. If you would notice, in the latter
>part of tenure at President, Pa Shaki became more comfortable in Afrikan
>outfits. Many of his ministers even followed suit.
>
>(3) Pa Shaki was being extremely pressured to select Sorie Ibrahim Koroma to
>be his Prime Minister and subsequently his first Vice President to appease
>the Temne. My argument was that he needed someone with an amicable image,
>and that being called and cherishing the name Agba Satani does not portray
>an amicable image. He asked who fits such an image, and my response was
>Christian Alusine Kamara-Taylor. As it tuned out, Kamara-Taylor became the
>Prime Minister and later first Vice President. But to appease those who were
>pressuring him, Pa Shaki later appointed Koroma his second Vice President.
>
>And Karmor John Simbo, about Taqi, Forna, etc., many students and I wrote
>letters to Pa Shaki arguing that the accused had a long history of being
>"straight shooters" who would confront opponents openly rather than engage
>in dubious behind-the-scene activities. I went to school with relatives of
>Taqi and Forna in S/L. Some of them ended up working at the Lungi Airport.
>Each time I visited Lungi, I hooked up with them. But when the confessions
>to the coup plot started coming out and David Lansana, who had orchestrated
>the first coup in Sierra Leone's history, was seriously implicated, our
>hearts sunk because we knew that their demise was certain.
>
>
>
>on 7/28/07 3:42 PM, Claude Kajue at CKajue@Pfuster.com wrote:
>
>Brother Abdul,
>
>
>
>I¹ve gotta take you up on this... Please tell me what were some of the
>things that you had pointed out to pops Shek that he went back and changed?
>
>
>
>Claude
>
>
>From: leonenet-owner@lists.umbc.edu [mailto:leonenet-owner@lists.umbc.edu]
>On Behalf Of Abdul Bangura
>Sent: 28 July 2007 17:03
>To: John Simbo; leonenet@lists.umbc.edu; Pierre Lightfoot- Boston;
>postmaster
>Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
>
>
>Nope!!! Surpirsingly, he went back to S/L ad changed some of the things I
>had pointed out. The lesson is that had the folk around him talked directly
>to him about the shortcomings of his administration, as opposed to simply
>going along as some did or try to remove him from prower as other attempted,
>Shaki was maleable.
>
>
>on 7/28/07 11:30 AM, John Simbo at johnsimbo@telkomsa.net wrote:
>
>So? As Sam put it, he conned you and you elevated him to hero status, there
>to remain ever after.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Abdul Bangura
>To: John Simbo leonenet@lists.umbc.edu, ;
>leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; Pierre Lightfoot- Boston
> ; postmaster
>
>Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 5:18 PM
>Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
>
>I had an encounter with Pa Shaki, JCK's Uncle, in Switzerland, and I thought
>I was going to get it hard for speaking my mind to him. He was expecting me
>to do like the others that went into his hotel office to see him, share the
>typical "hardship stories" as Afrikan students struggling in Europe, and
>then ask for financial help. Instead, I went in there talking about what I
>admired about his earlier political record and some of his bad policies at
>the time. To my surprise, he thanked me for being honest and confessed that
>there were things about his administration of which he was not proud or
>happy.
>
>
>on 7/28/07 1:03 AM, John Simbo at johnsimbo@telkomsa.net wrote:
>
>?
>As you would expect, AKB, I don't agree with your assessment of the man.
>However let us for a moment accept what you say.
>1 How much more crooked does Shaki need to have been before you say "ee
>do so, yu too pass mark. No honour for yu"?
>2 How come you never seem to apply this fine balancing act of good versus
>evil to other personalities, Sir Albert for example?
>
>John
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Abdul Karim Bangura
>To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; John Simbo ;
>leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; Pierre Lightfoot- Boston
> ; postmaster
>
>Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 9:17 PM
>Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
>
>It is simple, Karmor John Simbo. Shaki was a crook, but he was also a true
>nationalist. Look at his entire history, not just the years he made his
>mistakes.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Simbo
>Sent: Jul 27, 2007 11:34 AM
>To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu, Pierre Lightfoot- Boston
>
>, postmaster
>Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
>
>The joke is fine Pierre, only thing diabolical is Shaki's rule. He created
>that hell in the first place. I can't figure why there hasn't been a clamour
>for the man's remains to be removed from the precincts of Parliament. He
>does not deserve that honour.
>Cheers.
>John
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Pierre Lightfoot- Boston
>To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; postmaster
>
>Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:24 PM
>Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
>
>
>Very humorous, but in a diabolical manner.
>
>
>postmaster wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Ill, How? Sa Lone man sef get den abi wan dem oh!
>The Queen, Clinton & Pa Shakie went to hell and met the devil.
>
>Queen Elizabeth said "I miss England; Please I want to call England and see
>how everybody is doing there". She called and talked for about 5 minutes,
>and then she asked "Well, Devil, how much do I owe you???? " The devil says
>"Five million pounds". She wrote him a cheque and went to sit back on her
>chair.
>
>Bill Clinton was so jealous, he starts screaming, "My turn! I wanna call the
>States, I wanna see how every godamn guy, well actually Monica Lewinsky, is
>doing out there. He called and talked for about 2 minutes, and then he asked
>"Well, Devil, how much do I owe you???? " The devil says "Ten million
>dollars". With a smug look on his face, he wrote a cheque and went to sit
>back on his chair.
>
>Pa Shakie was even more jealous & starts screaming, "Me too go call Sa Lone
>o jare, Ar wan see how everybody dae do. If they don bring light en if di
>road dem don betteh. If den don make fly-over bridge dem now. Ar go talk to
>the ministers, to me special advisers, to me APC party, to the SLPP, to all
>den oda parties den and Sa Lone Central Bank, to everybody... "
>He calls Sa Lone and he talks for about twenty hours, he talked & talked &
>talked, then he asked, "Well, Devil, can I have my bill???? " The devil says
>"Ten thousand Leones".
>
>Pa Shakie is stunned & says; "Aw ba!! Ten thousand Leone nor mor???
>Only ten thousand Leones" The Devil says "Well if you make a call from one
>hell to another hell, it's local! "
>
>
>Cheers!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers
>ch?refer=1ONXIC> , not web links.
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Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
The answer to your question, Mr. Blind Supporter of BeLewa-Yodalaria Pontius Pillate Bumpeh and Chief Norman Killer, can be found in the most authoritative work on the subject by John Weeks titled Development Strategy and the Economy of Sierra Leone (New York: St. Martin's Press, 1992). And I am not going to spoon feed you as folk do with BeLewa-Yodalaria.
on 7/29/07 2:43 PM, Tunjie Sumner at tunjie@earthlink.net wrote:
> AKB,
>
> If Stevens was paying his debt as you claim (which would make us credit
> worthy/low credit risk), why was Momoh not able to easily borrow against
> previous established lines of credit that Stevens paid off? Why were loans
> from financial institutions in the Stevens and Momoh era given with stricter
> or harsher conditions/terms? than the Margai era? Why was foreign exchange
> allocation to the public and businesses severely rationed? Explain foreign
> donors resorting to aid/loan without direct transfer of funds to Sierra Leone
> as was the case with Chinese government and building of the Stadium. Justify
> folks forming lines for every imported food/non food item especially gasoline
> and rice under Stevens/Momoh.
>
>
> T.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Abdul Bangura <theai@earthlink.net>
>> Sent: Jul 29, 2007 7:56 AM
>> To: "leonenet@lists.umbc.edu, Claude Kajue" <CKajue@Pfuster.com>,
>> "leonenet@lists.umbc.edu" <leonenet@lists.umbc.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
>>
>> Thanks a heap Karmor Claude for your inquiry, despite its sneaky motive. The
>> following are the three things I pointed out to Pa Shaki. Now whether or not
>> mine was the only prompting that led him to change his policies I cannot
>> claim or, as we used to say in the good old days, "cham banga for am."
>>
>> (1) Based on an economics essay a fellow student, Arthur, had written, I was
>> very concerned about the Shaki Administration continuously borriwing from
>> the World bank and IMF. I shared with him Arthur's findings and suggested
>> that the Administration start paying down the debt. Well, as you may recall,
>> the Administration did. The result was that Sierra Leone's economy grew and
>> was even in a good position to withstand the global oil shocks of the
>> period.
>>
>> (2) Since my youth, I have always felt that an occasional monkey suit and
>> tie is okay; but excessive wearing of such oyinbo/muzungu costumes, I
>> believe, is a sign is serious cultural capitulation. Thus, I politely
>> mentioned to Pa Shaki that he being an Afrikan nationalist can spur a growth
>> in the national apparel industry by wearing more Afrikan outfits. I pointed
>> out the examples of his best friend, Sekou Toure, and Pa Milton Margai who
>> looked good in their Afrikan outfits. If you would notice, in the latter
>> part of tenure at President, Pa Shaki became more comfortable in Afrikan
>> outfits. Many of his ministers even followed suit.
>>
>> (3) Pa Shaki was being extremely pressured to select Sorie Ibrahim Koroma to
>> be his Prime Minister and subsequently his first Vice President to appease
>> the Temne. My argument was that he needed someone with an amicable image,
>> and that being called and cherishing the name Agba Satani does not portray
>> an amicable image. He asked who fits such an image, and my response was
>> Christian Alusine Kamara-Taylor. As it tuned out, Kamara-Taylor became the
>> Prime Minister and later first Vice President. But to appease those who were
>> pressuring him, Pa Shaki later appointed Koroma his second Vice President.
>>
>> And Karmor John Simbo, about Taqi, Forna, etc., many students and I wrote
>> letters to Pa Shaki arguing that the accused had a long history of being
>> "straight shooters" who would confront opponents openly rather than engage
>> in dubious behind-the-scene activities. I went to school with relatives of
>> Taqi and Forna in S/L. Some of them ended up working at the Lungi Airport.
>> Each time I visited Lungi, I hooked up with them. But when the confessions
>> to the coup plot started coming out and David Lansana, who had orchestrated
>> the first coup in Sierra Leone's history, was seriously implicated, our
>> hearts sunk because we knew that their demise was certain.
>>
>>
>>
>> on 7/28/07 3:42 PM, Claude Kajue at CKajue@Pfuster.com wrote:
>>
>> Brother Abdul,
>>
>>
>>
>> Ive gotta take you up on this... Please tell me what were some of the
>> things that you had pointed out to pops Shek that he went back and changed?
>>
>>
>>
>> Claude
>>
>>
>> From: leonenet-owner@lists.umbc.edu [mailto:leonenet-owner@lists.umbc.edu]
>> On Behalf Of Abdul Bangura
>> Sent: 28 July 2007 17:03
>> To: John Simbo; leonenet@lists.umbc.edu; Pierre Lightfoot- Boston;
>> postmaster
>> Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
>>
>>
>> Nope!!! Surpirsingly, he went back to S/L ad changed some of the things I
>> had pointed out. The lesson is that had the folk around him talked directly
>> to him about the shortcomings of his administration, as opposed to simply
>> going along as some did or try to remove him from prower as other attempted,
>> Shaki was maleable.
>>
>>
>> on 7/28/07 11:30 AM, John Simbo at johnsimbo@telkomsa.net wrote:
>>
>> So? As Sam put it, he conned you and you elevated him to hero status, there
>> to remain ever after.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Abdul Bangura <mailto:theai@earthlink.net>
>> To: John Simbo leonenet@lists.umbc.edu, <mailto:leonenet@lists.umbc.edu,> ;
>> leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; Pierre Lightfoot- Boston
>> <mailto:p_boston@yahoo.com> ; postmaster
>> <mailto:postmaster@youthforsierraleone.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 5:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
>>
>> I had an encounter with Pa Shaki, JCK's Uncle, in Switzerland, and I thought
>> I was going to get it hard for speaking my mind to him. He was expecting me
>> to do like the others that went into his hotel office to see him, share the
>> typical "hardship stories" as Afrikan students struggling in Europe, and
>> then ask for financial help. Instead, I went in there talking about what I
>> admired about his earlier political record and some of his bad policies at
>> the time. To my surprise, he thanked me for being honest and confessed that
>> there were things about his administration of which he was not proud or
>> happy.
>>
>>
>> on 7/28/07 1:03 AM, John Simbo at johnsimbo@telkomsa.net wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> As you would expect, AKB, I don't agree with your assessment of the man.
>> However let us for a moment accept what you say.
>> 1 How much more crooked does Shaki need to have been before you say "ee
>> do so, yu too pass mark. No honour for yu"?
>> 2 How come you never seem to apply this fine balancing act of good versus
>> evil to other personalities, Sir Albert for example?
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Abdul Karim Bangura <mailto:theai@earthlink.net>
>> To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; John Simbo <mailto:johnsimbo@telkomsa.net> ;
>> leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; Pierre Lightfoot- Boston
>> <mailto:p_boston@yahoo.com> ; postmaster
>> <mailto:postmaster@youthforsierraleone.com>
>> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 9:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
>>
>> It is simple, Karmor John Simbo. Shaki was a crook, but he was also a true
>> nationalist. Look at his entire history, not just the years he made his
>> mistakes.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Simbo
>> Sent: Jul 27, 2007 11:34 AM
>> To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu, Pierre Lightfoot- Boston
>>
>> , postmaster
>> Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
>>
>> The joke is fine Pierre, only thing diabolical is Shaki's rule. He created
>> that hell in the first place. I can't figure why there hasn't been a clamour
>> for the man's remains to be removed from the precincts of Parliament. He
>> does not deserve that honour.
>> Cheers.
>> John
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Pierre Lightfoot- Boston <mailto:p_boston@yahoo.com>
>> To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; postmaster
>> <mailto:postmaster@youthforsierraleone.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
>>
>>
>> Very humorous, but in a diabolical manner.
>>
>>
>> postmaster <postmaster@youthforsierraleone.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
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>> Ill, How? Sa Lone man sef get den abi wan dem oh!
>> The Queen, Clinton & Pa Shakie went to hell and met the devil.
>>
>> Queen Elizabeth said "I miss England; Please I want to call England and see
>> how everybody is doing there". She called and talked for about 5 minutes,
>> and then she asked "Well, Devil, how much do I owe you???? " The devil says
>> "Five million pounds". She wrote him a cheque and went to sit back on her
>> chair.
>>
>> Bill Clinton was so jealous, he starts screaming, "My turn! I wanna call the
>> States, I wanna see how every godamn guy, well actually Monica Lewinsky, is
>> doing out there. He called and talked for about 2 minutes, and then he asked
>> "Well, Devil, how much do I owe you???? " The devil says "Ten million
>> dollars". With a smug look on his face, he wrote a cheque and went to sit
>> back on his chair.
>>
>> Pa Shakie was even more jealous & starts screaming, "Me too go call Sa Lone
>> o jare, Ar wan see how everybody dae do. If they don bring light en if di
>> road dem don betteh. If den don make fly-over bridge dem now. Ar go talk to
>> the ministers, to me special advisers, to me APC party, to the SLPP, to all
>> den oda parties den and Sa Lone Central Bank, to everybody... "
>> He calls Sa Lone and he talks for about twenty hours, he talked & talked &
>> talked, then he asked, "Well, Devil, can I have my bill???? " The devil says
>> "Ten thousand Leones".
>>
>> Pa Shakie is stunned & says; "Aw ba!! Ten thousand Leone nor mor???
>> Only ten thousand Leones" The Devil says "Well if you make a call from one
>> hell to another hell, it's local! "
>>
>>
>> Cheers!
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| Aminista, exaggerator is another name you are adding to your repertoire...anyway, i could not help but notice that yours (okay and my good friend from No. Cal) is/are the only APC voice(s) left around here... i am hoping that you guys (the professionals in with serious academic output in govt), including Uncle Pete (Dumbuya) will start a serious discussion on how to help the politicians in Salone develop permanent governing strategies besides "wearing African clothes".... "-)...
Look what that got Tanzania and Zambia.... anyway, this forum, independent of Obai, should start a serious discussion of revenue sources for the govt: should they create structured taxes for everyone including farmers?
We have seen you and your people lose too many elections: Gore, Kerry.... we want you to put your tremendous capital to use to guide Salon...the VC job is taken for the next 20 yrs, so do not be bitter about that: you can be a consultant, pro bono,....so get to work and don't be bitter that you were not given that VC job: AG is doing a great job and besides he is our own, so we should not let him fail....ed
on 7/29/07 11:43 AM, Claude Kajue at CKajue@Pfuster.com wrote:
Bro Abdul,
The reason why I asked you that question is because the Sheki I knew did not take kindly to outsiders (non-APC core members) telling him how to do his job more or less students. I know for a fact that guru (Hindolo Trye) will back me on this. He was the most popular student during that era and even he failed when he tried to advise pops Sheks on matters regarding student activities. The old man called him a ³fit-yai boy² (disrespectful boy). That is why I was surprised when you said that he accepted and implemented the advise you gave him.
I¹ll take your word that he accepted your recommendations on 1 and 2; however, 3 might be a little fuzzy because SI Koroma was his vice president (a position that MS Fornah would have gotten had he not rebelled) and Kamara-Taylor was his prime minister. He made SI VP-1 and Kamara-Taylor VP-2 after the one-party referendum.
Just a quick heads up... After MS Fornah and Bash-Taqi were sidelined, real power within the APC was in the hands of SI Koroma. Whenever there was a cabinet reshuffle, SI was heavily involved in choosing who got what position including the secretary-general position of the party a position which ET Kamara had for years. It would have been political suicide for pa Sheki had he tried to sideline SI.
Claude
From: Abdul Bangura [mailto:theai@earthlink.net]
Sent: 29 July 2007 15:57
To: Claude Kajue; leonenet@lists.umbc.edu
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
Thanks a heap Karmor Claude for your inquiry, despite its sneaky motive. The following are the three things I pointed out to Pa Shaki. Now whether or not mine was the only prompting that led him to change his policies I cannot claim or, as we used to say in the good old days, "cham banga for am."
(1) Based on an economics essay a fellow student, Arthur, had written, I was very concerned about the Shaki Administration continuously borriwing from the World bank and IMF. I shared with him Arthur's findings and suggested that the Administration start paying down the debt. Well, as you may recall, the Administration did. The result was that Sierra Leone's economy grew and was even in a good position to withstand the global oil shocks of the period.
(2) Since my youth, I have always felt that an occasional monkey suit and tie is okay; but excessive wearing of such oyinbo/muzungu costumes, I believe, is a sign is serious cultural capitulation. Thus, I politely mentioned to Pa Shaki that he being an Afrikan nationalist can spur a growth in the national apparel industry by wearing more Afrikan outfits. I pointed out the examples of his best friend, Sekou Toure, and Pa Milton Margai who looked good in their Afrikan outfits. If you would notice, in the latter part of tenure at President, Pa Shaki became more comfortable in Afrikan outfits. Many of his ministers even followed suit.
(3) Pa Shaki was being extremely pressured to select Sorie Ibrahim Koroma to be his Prime Minister and subsequently his first Vice President to appease the Temne. My argument was that he needed someone with an amicable image, and that being called and cherishing the name Agba Satani does not portray an amicable image. He asked who fits such an image, and my response was Christian Alusine Kamara-Taylor. As it tuned out, Kamara-Taylor became the Prime Minister and later first Vice President. But to appease those who were pressuring him, Pa Shaki later appointed Koroma his second Vice President.
And Karmor John Simbo, about Taqi, Forna, etc., many students and I wrote letters to Pa Shaki arguing that the accused had a long history of being "straight shooters" who would confront opponents openly rather than engage in dubious behind-the-scene activities. I went to school with relatives of Taqi and Forna in S/L. Some of them ended up working at the Lungi Airport. Each time I visited Lungi, I hooked up with them. But when the confessions to the coup plot started coming out and David Lansana, who had orchestrated the first coup in Sierra Leone's history, was seriously implicated, our hearts sunk because we knew that their demise was certain.
on 7/28/07 3:42 PM, Claude Kajue at CKajue@Pfuster.com wrote:
Brother Abdul,
I¹ve gotta take you up on this... Please tell me what were some of the things that you had pointed out to pops Shek that he went back and changed?
Claude
From: leonenet-owner@lists.umbc.edu [mailto:leonenet-owner@lists.umbc.edu] On Behalf Of Abdul Bangura
Sent: 28 July 2007 17:03
To: John Simbo; leonenet@lists.umbc.edu; Pierre Lightfoot- Boston; postmaster
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
Nope!!! Surpirsingly, he went back to S/L ad changed some of the things I had pointed out. The lesson is that had the folk around him talked directly to him about the shortcomings of his administration, as opposed to simply going along as some did or try to remove him from prower as other attempted, Shaki was maleable.
on 7/28/07 11:30 AM, John Simbo at johnsimbo@telkomsa.net wrote:
So? As Sam put it, he conned you and you elevated him to hero status, there to remain ever after.
----- Original Message -----
From: Abdul Bangura
To: John Simbo leonenet@lists.umbc.edu, ; leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; Pierre Lightfoot- Boston ; postmaster
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
I had an encounter with Pa Shaki, JCK's Uncle, in Switzerland, and I thought I was going to get it hard for speaking my mind to him. He was expecting me to do like the others that went into his hotel office to see him, share the typical "hardship stories" as Afrikan students struggling in Europe, and then ask for financial help. Instead, I went in there talking about what I admired about his earlier political record and some of his bad policies at the time. To my surprise, he thanked me for being honest and confessed that there were things about his administration of which he was not proud or happy.
on 7/28/07 1:03 AM, John Simbo at johnsimbo@telkomsa.net wrote:
?
As you would expect, AKB, I don't agree with your assessment of the man. However let us for a moment accept what you say.
1 How much more crooked does Shaki need to have been before you say "ee do so, yu too pass mark. No honour for yu"?
2 How come you never seem to apply this fine balancing act of good versus evil to other personalities, Sir Albert for example?
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Abdul Karim Bangura
To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; John Simbo ; leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; Pierre Lightfoot- Boston ; postmaster
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
It is simple, Karmor John Simbo. Shaki was a crook, but he was also a true nationalist. Look at his entire history, not just the years he made his mistakes.
-----Original Message-----
From: John Simbo
Sent: Jul 27, 2007 11:34 AM
To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu, Pierre Lightfoot- Boston
, postmaster
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
The joke is fine Pierre, only thing diabolical is Shaki's rule. He created that hell in the first place. I can't figure why there hasn't been a clamour for the man's remains to be removed from the precincts of Parliament. He does not deserve that honour.
Cheers.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Pierre Lightfoot- Boston
To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; postmaster
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
Very humorous, but in a diabolical manner.
postmaster wrote:
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Ill, How? Sa Lone man sef get den abi wan dem oh!
The Queen, Clinton & Pa Shakie went to hell and met the devil.
Queen Elizabeth said "I miss England; Please I want to call England and see how everybody is doing there". She called and talked for about 5 minutes, and then she asked "Well, Devil, how much do I owe you???? " The devil says "Five million pounds". She wrote him a cheque and went to sit back on her chair.
Bill Clinton was so jealous, he starts screaming, "My turn! I wanna call the States, I wanna see how every godamn guy, well actually Monica Lewinsky, is doing out there. He called and talked for about 2 minutes, and then he asked "Well, Devil, how much do I owe you???? " The devil says "Ten million dollars". With a smug look on his face, he wrote a cheque and went to sit back on his chair.
Pa Shakie was even more jealous & starts screaming, "Me too go call Sa Lone o jare, Ar wan see how everybody dae do. If they don bring light en if di road dem don betteh. If den don make fly-over bridge dem now. Ar go talk to the ministers, to me special advisers, to me APC party, to the SLPP, to all den oda parties den and Sa Lone Central Bank, to everybody... "
He calls Sa Lone and he talks for about twenty hours, he talked & talked & talked, then he asked, "Well, Devil, can I have my bill???? " The devil says "Ten thousand Leones".
Pa Shakie is stunned & says; "Aw ba!! Ten thousand Leone nor mor???
Only ten thousand Leones" The Devil says "Well if you make a call from one hell to another hell, it's local! "
Cheers!
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Karmor Mbayo, Karmor Kallon, many other serious academics and I did exactly that for Kabbahlaria. What happened to all that hard work? That is a question you should ask Kabbahlaria and BeLewa-Yodalaria the next time you see them. About the VC job? Never interested! Make it a Chancellorship a la American style? Aha!
It is okay to admit that BeLewa-Yodalaria, your fellow Bumpeh Killer, wants you for the VC position. The current would not mind one bit. Really!!!
on 7/29/07 7:45 PM, Smith, Ed at esmith@vt.edu wrote:
> Aminista, exaggerator is another name you are adding to your
> repertoire...anyway, i could not help but notice that yours (okay and my good
> friend from No. Cal) is/are the only APC voice(s) left around here... i am
> hoping that you guys (the professionals in with serious academic output in
> govt), including Uncle Pete (Dumbuya) will start a serious discussion on how
> to help the politicians in Salone develop permanent governing strategies
> besides "wearing African clothes".... "-)...
>
> Look what that got Tanzania and Zambia.... anyway, this forum, independent of
> Obai, should start a serious discussion of revenue sources for the govt:
> should they create structured taxes for everyone including farmers?
>
> We have seen you and your people lose too many elections: Gore, Kerry.... we
> want you to put your tremendous capital to use to guide Salon...the VC job is
> taken for the next 20 yrs, so do not be bitter about that: you can be a
> consultant, pro bono,....so get to work and don't be bitter that you were not
> given that VC job: AG is doing a great job and besides he is our own, so we
> should not let him fail....ed
>
>
>
>
> on 7/29/07 11:43 AM, Claude Kajue at CKajue@Pfuster.com wrote:
>
>
>
> Bro Abdul,
>
>
>
> The reason why I asked you that question is because the Sheki I knew did not
> take kindly to outsiders (non-APC core members) telling him how to do his job
> more or less students. I know for a fact that guru (Hindolo Trye) will back me
> on this. He was the most popular student during that era and even he failed
> when he tried to advise pops Sheks on matters regarding student activities.
> The old man called him a ³fit-yai boy² (disrespectful boy). That is why I was
> surprised when you said that he accepted and implemented the advise you gave
> him.
>
>
>
> I¹ll take your word that he accepted your recommendations on 1 and 2; however,
> 3 might be a little fuzzy because SI Koroma was his vice president (a position
> that MS Fornah would have gotten had he not rebelled) and Kamara-Taylor was
> his prime minister. He made SI VP-1 and Kamara-Taylor VP-2 after the one-party
> referendum.
>
>
>
> Just a quick heads up... After MS Fornah and Bash-Taqi were sidelined, real
> power within the APC was in the hands of SI Koroma. Whenever there was a
> cabinet reshuffle, SI was heavily involved in choosing who got what position
> including the secretary-general position of the party a position which ET
> Kamara had for years. It would have been political suicide for pa Sheki had he
> tried to sideline SI.
>
>
>
> Claude
>
>
>
>
> From: Abdul Bangura [mailto:theai@earthlink.net]
> Sent: 29 July 2007 15:57
> To: Claude Kajue; leonenet@lists.umbc.edu
> Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
>
>
> Thanks a heap Karmor Claude for your inquiry, despite its sneaky motive. The
> following are the three things I pointed out to Pa Shaki. Now whether or not
> mine was the only prompting that led him to change his policies I cannot claim
> or, as we used to say in the good old days, "cham banga for am."
>
> (1) Based on an economics essay a fellow student, Arthur, had written, I was
> very concerned about the Shaki Administration continuously borriwing from the
> World bank and IMF. I shared with him Arthur's findings and suggested that the
> Administration start paying down the debt. Well, as you may recall, the
> Administration did. The result was that Sierra Leone's economy grew and was
> even in a good position to withstand the global oil shocks of the period.
>
> (2) Since my youth, I have always felt that an occasional monkey suit and tie
> is okay; but excessive wearing of such oyinbo/muzungu costumes, I believe, is
> a sign is serious cultural capitulation. Thus, I politely mentioned to Pa
> Shaki that he being an Afrikan nationalist can spur a growth in the national
> apparel industry by wearing more Afrikan outfits. I pointed out the examples
> of his best friend, Sekou Toure, and Pa Milton Margai who looked good in their
> Afrikan outfits. If you would notice, in the latter part of tenure at
> President, Pa Shaki became more comfortable in Afrikan outfits. Many of his
> ministers even followed suit.
>
> (3) Pa Shaki was being extremely pressured to select Sorie Ibrahim Koroma to
> be his Prime Minister and subsequently his first Vice President to appease the
> Temne. My argument was that he needed someone with an amicable image, and that
> being called and cherishing the name Agba Satani does not portray an amicable
> image. He asked who fits such an image, and my response was Christian Alusine
> Kamara-Taylor. As it tuned out, Kamara-Taylor became the Prime Minister and
> later first Vice President. But to appease those who were pressuring him, Pa
> Shaki later appointed Koroma his second Vice President.
>
> And Karmor John Simbo, about Taqi, Forna, etc., many students and I wrote
> letters to Pa Shaki arguing that the accused had a long history of being
> "straight shooters" who would confront opponents openly rather than engage in
> dubious behind-the-scene activities. I went to school with relatives of Taqi
> and Forna in S/L. Some of them ended up working at the Lungi Airport. Each
> time I visited Lungi, I hooked up with them. But when the confessions to the
> coup plot started coming out and David Lansana, who had orchestrated the first
> coup in Sierra Leone's history, was seriously implicated, our hearts sunk
> because we knew that their demise was certain.
>
>
>
> on 7/28/07 3:42 PM, Claude Kajue at CKajue@Pfuster.com wrote:
>
> Brother Abdul,
>
>
>
> I¹ve gotta take you up on this... Please tell me what were some of the things
> that you had pointed out to pops Shek that he went back and changed?
>
>
>
> Claude
>
>
> From: leonenet-owner@lists.umbc.edu [mailto:leonenet-owner@lists.umbc.edu] On
> Behalf Of Abdul Bangura
> Sent: 28 July 2007 17:03
> To: John Simbo; leonenet@lists.umbc.edu; Pierre Lightfoot- Boston; postmaster
> Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
>
>
> Nope!!! Surpirsingly, he went back to S/L ad changed some of the things I had
> pointed out. The lesson is that had the folk around him talked directly to him
> about the shortcomings of his administration, as opposed to simply going along
> as some did or try to remove him from prower as other attempted, Shaki was
> maleable.
>
>
> on 7/28/07 11:30 AM, John Simbo at johnsimbo@telkomsa.net wrote:
>
> So? As Sam put it, he conned you and you elevated him to hero status, there to
> remain ever after.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Abdul Bangura <mailto:theai@earthlink.net>
> To: John Simbo leonenet@lists.umbc.edu, <mailto:leonenet@lists.umbc.edu,> ;
> leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; Pierre Lightfoot- Boston <mailto:p_boston@yahoo.com>
> ; postmaster <mailto:postmaster@youthforsierraleone.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 5:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
>
> I had an encounter with Pa Shaki, JCK's Uncle, in Switzerland, and I thought I
> was going to get it hard for speaking my mind to him. He was expecting me to
> do like the others that went into his hotel office to see him, share the
> typical "hardship stories" as Afrikan students struggling in Europe, and then
> ask for financial help. Instead, I went in there talking about what I admired
> about his earlier political record and some of his bad policies at the time.
> To my surprise, he thanked me for being honest and confessed that there were
> things about his administration of which he was not proud or happy.
>
>
> on 7/28/07 1:03 AM, John Simbo at johnsimbo@telkomsa.net wrote:
>
> ?
> As you would expect, AKB, I don't agree with your assessment of the man.
> However let us for a moment accept what you say.
> 1 How much more crooked does Shaki need to have been before you say "ee do
> so, yu too pass mark. No honour for yu"?
> 2 How come you never seem to apply this fine balancing act of good versus
> evil to other personalities, Sir Albert for example?
>
> John
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Abdul Karim Bangura <mailto:theai@earthlink.net>
> To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; John Simbo <mailto:johnsimbo@telkomsa.net> ;
> leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; Pierre Lightfoot- Boston <mailto:p_boston@yahoo.com>
> ; postmaster <mailto:postmaster@youthforsierraleone.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 9:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
>
> It is simple, Karmor John Simbo. Shaki was a crook, but he was also a true
> nationalist. Look at his entire history, not just the years he made his
> mistakes.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Simbo
> Sent: Jul 27, 2007 11:34 AM
> To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu, Pierre Lightfoot- Boston
>
> , postmaster
> Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
>
> The joke is fine Pierre, only thing diabolical is Shaki's rule. He created
> that hell in the first place. I can't figure why there hasn't been a clamour
> for the man's remains to be removed from the precincts of Parliament. He does
> not deserve that honour.
> Cheers.
> John
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pierre Lightfoot- Boston <mailto:p_boston@yahoo.com>
> To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu ; postmaster
> <mailto:postmaster@youthforsierraleone.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
>
>
> Very humorous, but in a diabolical manner.
>
>
> postmaster <postmaster@youthforsierraleone.com> wrote:
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ill, How? Sa Lone man sef get den abi wan dem oh!
> The Queen, Clinton & Pa Shakie went to hell and met the devil.
>
> Queen Elizabeth said "I miss England; Please I want to call England and see
> how everybody is doing there". She called and talked for about 5 minutes, and
> then she asked "Well, Devil, how much do I owe you???? " The devil says "Five
> million pounds". She wrote him a cheque and went to sit back on her chair.
>
> Bill Clinton was so jealous, he starts screaming, "My turn! I wanna call the
> States, I wanna see how every godamn guy, well actually Monica Lewinsky, is
> doing out there. He called and talked for about 2 minutes, and then he asked
> "Well, Devil, how much do I owe you???? " The devil says "Ten million
> dollars". With a smug look on his face, he wrote a cheque and went to sit back
> on his chair.
>
> Pa Shakie was even more jealous & starts screaming, "Me too go call Sa Lone o
> jare, Ar wan see how everybody dae do. If they don bring light en if di road
> dem don betteh. If den don make fly-over bridge dem now. Ar go talk to the
> ministers, to me special advisers, to me APC party, to the SLPP, to all den
> oda parties den and Sa Lone Central Bank, to everybody... "
> He calls Sa Lone and he talks for about twenty hours, he talked & talked &
> talked, then he asked, "Well, Devil, can I have my bill???? " The devil says
> "Ten thousand Leones".
>
> Pa Shakie is stunned & says; "Aw ba!! Ten thousand Leone nor mor???
> Only ten thousand Leones" The Devil says "Well if you make a call from one
> hell to another hell, it's local! "
>
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers
> <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48252/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch
> ?refer=1ONXIC> , not web links.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Dear Sam and John:
It seems both of you are just now getting to understand what Karmoh AKB really believes in and stands for. I first met him in cyberspace during the RUF/AFRC period. Karmoh seemed to think that the Kabba government should just have sat down repeatedly with Johnny-Paul and Sankoh and showed them why their rebellion was not a good idea and everything would be fine. This brought to my mind US Senator William Borah's immortal reaction in September 1939 upon hearing that Hitler had invaded Poland to start World War II: "Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided."
Karmoh AKB's naivette in the service of endless acommodation recalls also the flacid foreign policy of the Momoh administration at the beginning of the Sierra Leone invasion.
- JCK
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On 7/28/2007, samzoker@hotmail.com writes:
John,
Indeed! AKB is nuts! He just loves to cuddle nasty leaders in Africa......they seem to represent a form of "nationalism" to him. What's wrong with people striving to remove a thieving despot from power? The nation's top job is a JOB with performance and ethical requirements; it's not an entitlement and the people should not be obligated to tip-toe around a leader's obvious inability to to do the job.
Contrast his loving tender understanding of Sheki to his virulent hatred of Kabba and Berewa!
Regards
Sam Zoker
From: "John Simbo" <johnsimbo@telkomsa.net>
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Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:11:03 +0200
Oh, ok now I see. He was an angel, problem was the people around him who did not talk directly to him! Look what talking did for Taqi and others. I suppose you would now say they did not talk directly to the man, they tried "to remove him from power". AKB you are amazing!
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Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
I revise my previous assessment: It takes three nuts to know one nut, no pun intended!!!
on 7/30/07 3:38 PM, JCKALLON2@aol.com at JCKALLON2@aol.com wrote:
Dear Sam and John:
It seems both of you are just now getting to understand what Karmoh AKB really believes in and stands for. I first met him in cyberspace during the RUF/AFRC period. Karmoh seemed to think that the Kabba government should just have sat down repeatedly with Johnny-Paul and Sankoh and showed them why their rebellion was not a good idea and everything would be fine. This brought to my mind US Senator William Borah's immortal reaction in September 1939 upon hearing that Hitler had invaded Poland to start World War II: "Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided."
Karmoh AKB's naivette in the service of endless acommodation recalls also the flacid foreign policy of the Momoh administration at the beginning of the Sierra Leone invasion.
- JCK
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On 7/28/2007, samzoker@hotmail.com writes:
John,
Indeed! AKB is nuts! He just loves to cuddle nasty leaders in Africa......they seem to represent a form of "nationalism" to him. What's wrong with people striving to remove a thieving despot from power? The nation's top job is a JOB with performance and ethical requirements; it's not an entitlement and the people should not be obligated to tip-toe around a leader's obvious inability to to do the job.
Contrast his loving tender understanding of Sheki to his virulent hatred of Kabba and Berewa!
Regards
Sam Zoker
From: "John Simbo" <johnsimbo@telkomsa.net>
Reply-To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu, "John Simbo" <johnsimbo@telkomsa.net>
To: "Abdul Bangura" <theai@earthlink.net>, <leonenet@lists.umbc.edu>, "Pierre Lightfoot- Boston" <p_boston@yahoo.com>, "postmaster" <postmaster@youthforsierraleone.com>
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:11:03 +0200
Oh, ok now I see. He was an angel, problem was the people around him who did not talk directly to him! Look what talking did for Taqi and others. I suppose you would now say they did not talk directly to the man, they tried "to remove him from power". AKB you are amazing!
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Boh lef Jaiah ya. nah dox skin eh get. Sense no dey sink thru.
Yaya
On 7/30/07, Abdul Bangura <theai@earthlink.net
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I revise my previous assessment: It takes three nuts to know one nut, no pun intended!!!
on 7/30/07 3:38 PM, JCKALLON2@aol.com at
JCKALLON2@aol.com wrote:
Dear Sam and John:
It seems both of you are just now getting to understand what Karmoh AKB really believes in and stands for. I first met him in cyberspace during the RUF/AFRC period. Karmoh seemed to think that the Kabba government should just have sat down repeatedly with Johnny-Paul and Sankoh and showed them why their rebellion was not a good idea and everything would be fine. This brought to my mind US Senator William Borah's immortal reaction in September 1939 upon hearing that Hitler had invaded Poland to start World War II: "Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided."
Karmoh AKB's naivette in the service of endless acommodation recalls also the flacid foreign policy of the Momoh administration at the beginning of the Sierra Leone invasion.
- JCK
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On 7/28/2007, samzoker@hotmail.com writes:
John,
Indeed! AKB is nuts! He just loves to cuddle nasty leaders in Africa......they seem to represent a form of "nationalism" to him. What's wrong with people striving to remove a thieving despot from power? The nation's top job is a JOB with performance and ethical requirements; it's not an entitlement and the people should not be obligated to tip-toe around a leader's obvious inability to to do the job.
Contrast his loving tender understanding of Sheki to his virulent hatred of Kabba and Berewa!
Regards
Sam Zoker
From: "John Simbo" <johnsimbo@telkomsa.net>
Reply-To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu, "John Simbo" <
johnsimbo@telkomsa.net>
To: "Abdul Bangura" <theai@earthlink.net>, <
leonenet@lists.umbc.edu>, "Pierre Lightfoot- Boston" <p_boston@yahoo.com>, "postmaster" <
postmaster@youthforsierraleone.com>
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:11:03 +0200
Oh, ok now I see. He was an angel, problem was the people around him who did not talk directly to him! Look what talking did for Taqi and others. I suppose you would now say they did not talk directly to the man, they tried "
to remove him from power". AKB you are amazing!
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Bra Yaya:
The APC convention was followed by even more complaints, fist fights, mammy-cusses and all. The difference is that nobody paid attention because you guys have a long history of conducting crooked elections. Please keep your own house in order first.
- JCK
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On 7/28/2007, futatoro@gmail.com writes:
Brother Sam Zoker,
Why don't act on your recommendation of your last paragraph and urge vote against Beeewa because he participated in a fraudulent Convention process that selected Berewa as SLPP Presidential Candidate. Red Flag!
Yaya Fanusie-APC
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| 08/01/2007 3:25 PM |
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Re: [Leonenet] PA SHAKIE CALL SALONE
Baba Mzuri Yaya, was Karmor JCK one of the characters in the moview titled "Back to the Future"??? Just wondering why he is so stuck in the Middle Ages!!!
on 8/1/07 2:40 PM, JCKALLON2@aol.com at JCKALLON2@aol.com wrote:
Bra Yaya:
The APC convention was followed by even more complaints, fist fights, mammy-cusses and all. The difference is that nobody paid attention because you guys have a long history of conducting crooked elections. Please keep your own house in order first.
- JCK
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On 7/28/2007, futatoro@gmail.com writes:
Brother Sam Zoker,
Why don't act on your recommendation of your last paragraph and urge vote against Beeewa because he participated in a fraudulent Convention process that selected Berewa as SLPP Presidential Candidate. Red Flag!
Yaya Fanusie-APC
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I hear you. He was not one of the characters. He auditioned for the role but was rejected because he was suffering from slpp bikfukism.
Yaya
On 8/1/07,
Abdul Bangura <theai@earthlink.net> wrote:
Baba Mzuri Yaya, was Karmor JCK one of the characters in the moview titled "Back to the Future"??? Just wondering why he is so stuck in the Middle Ages!!!
on 8/1/07 2:40 PM, JCKALLON2@aol.com at
JCKALLON2@aol.com wrote:
Bra Yaya:
The APC convention was followed by even more complaints, fist fights, mammy-cusses and all. The difference is that nobody paid attention because you guys have a long history of conducting crooked elections. Please keep your own house in order first.
- JCK
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On 7/28/2007, futatoro@gmail.com writes:
Brother Sam Zoker,
Why don't act on your recommendation of your last paragraph and urge vote against Beeewa because he participated in a fraudulent Convention process that selected Berewa as SLPP Presidential Candidate. Red Flag!
Yaya Fanusie-APC
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